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H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.12 13:11:00 - [1] Oh yes, Eve is dying. Apocrypha is a total failure and everyone enjoying it is an absolute fool! I wish CCP "failed" as much with every update they bring... Cry some more while mindlessly shooting lvl 4 spawns - I know how frustrating it is, therefore I stopped running after ISK for the sake of earning more ISK Originally by: Rells First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.12 14:11:00 - [2] Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Akita, you are very wrong. My allaince have double the prices of some items, and kept it high for months. Its pretty easy if you know how to manipulate markets :). You're right. Akita would be right if Eve was a perfect market. But who cares when Eve is dying??? Akita lives in a little grey world where the sun never shines, in a little grey house with a lot of little grey people around. Akita is very depressed and the only joy in his/her sorry life is trolling the Eve-O forum where he/she finds satisfaction in making others appear dumb, thus appearing very clever in contrast. Every forum needs Akitas due to universal rules that would take more space than the 3130 remaining characters of this post, let's be grateful we have such a brillant one Originally by: Rells First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.12 14:46:00 - [3] Originally by: Akita T If it would be a perfect market, we would have prices "snapping" in place each time CCP makes a change, and staying there without moving even 0.01 ISK as long as CCP doesn't change anything else. Thanks to it being an imperfect market (but close enough to being perfect), we have some "wiggle room" for prices, and opportunities for manipulation. But that doesn't change the fact the "main trend line" in all prices IS eventually a direct and unavoidable consequence of CCP's designs and chosen values. Eve is nowhere close to a perfect market. A big part of the player community does not know how item prices look outside of Jita and their home region. A further characteristic of the 'perfect market' is the absence of monopolies and oligopolies. Looking at Dysporium this is clearly not the case. Surely Eve is closer to being a perfect market than the real world due to a natural lack of complexity, but still it comes as close to the real world market behaviour as possible in a computer game. I am sure there will be many T3 cruisers sold to customers whose cluelessness equals their wealth at huge profit margins, making those excursions into W-space not only fun but even good business. My point is basically that people start complaining too early. We will understand T3 in all its aspects much better in let's say 6 months - then there is still enough time for complaints. Originally by: Rells First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.12 14:50:00 - [4] Originally by: Uzume Ame T3 ships are fail as they stand now (no one knows what happens in CCP mind when they ask players about feedback and test and the day before release make the ships crappoholic again), hence it will fail. Take in mind that the production of T3 is probably the hardest thing in this game to do right now: - some of the stuff needed may be only found on the hard plexes, yeah the ones which eat caps for breakfast and full fleets (the dyspro/decoders of t3). - an annoying industrial process like invention, with all the pos reactions, and production slots! (you can't do these at stations). - it takes actually time to gather resources and do it all, with teamwork, no more funny moon mining arrays which you ahve to fly with your fancy jfreighter once a month to collect stuff, go to jita and sell. CCP stated they intend that T3 would have to eb around T2 prices, it's fun they didn't do the maths or udnerestimate how much people values their free time. TL;DR: when the novelty passes it will fail (FW again), and the industry (booster manufacturing again) and usagge of the ships will be limited to few bored hardcore players (blackops/faction bs/deadspace fits etc.) with too mcuh isks too much is never enought). WH will be relegated to the odd 'roaming' gang and gankers (lowsec). So the OP is right, CCP has combined all their 'awesome' (fail) stuff in this idea, LOL, because of screwing AGAIN with the risk+involvement = reward equation. Please quit and give me your stuff. It's better for all of us. Originally by: Rells First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.12 15:02:00 - [5] Originally by: Gamer4liff It's me, I'm the guy willing to pay 1 billion for a Legion+components. At a certain point the ships are Veblen goods anyway. You're reading the forum, so you are not half as clueless as the people I referred to in my earlier post. And the value of a ship is not only determined by its components, it's determined by your desire to fly it. It's like a Ferrari. Basically you buy a slightly less crappy car than a Fiat with lots of Fiat technology and even Fiat components at a highly exaggerated price. But for some it's pure automotive sexyness. Originally by: Rells First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.12 15:23:00 - [6] Originally by: Uzume Ame Originally by: H Lecter Please quit and give me your stuff. It's better for all of us. Never, don't assume what I'm saying is what applies to me, is what the general mindset is. Sorry I did not recognize you as the voice of the public opinion. When you come here and complain that the update is a complete failure and you do not like a single bit of it, I have to suppose that you will not play for long anymore. Obviously you have not recognized yourself that you don't get any joy playing Eve, so I honestly deserve your stuff for making you aware. There is no hurry. Take your time, I'll be still around in 3 months to accept the contract. Peace! Originally by: Rells First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.12 15:32:00 - [7] Originally by: Uzume Ame Yes that's why do you see so many ferraris on the street, you're terrible. And T3 was not supposed to be that, but "affordable" and common like T2 is. CPP WORDS Ferraris were just an example. Surprisingly many people drive cars that only satisfy their mobility level marginally better than your average car but cost many times as much. Manufacturers of luxury cars are usually far less affected by an economic crisis than those producing cars for the masses. Apart from that I am sure that there will be T3 ships at comparable prices to T2. But it will take time until the whole W-space exploration and its mechanics have been figured out and someone finds a very efficient way to obtain everything required for T3 construction. Until then the pioneers have a chance to earn huge profit margins - while even having tons of fun. BTW - 'FUN' is your reward for playing a game. ISK is a phantasy currency (besides the Icelandic Koruna) that will not buy you anything but pixels. Pixels are not fun, it's what you do with them. Originally by: Rells First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.12 15:45:00 - [8] Originally by: Uzume Ame Confirmed you're terrible... let me explain to you with simpel words: I don't think the update is terrible, I think the idea behind wormholes is excellent, that does not mean T3 ships will be triumphant and wormhole space will be full of business (that's the point of the OP). Learn some logic, and what do logic fallacies mean. Obviouslly I shouldn't ever bother to discuss this with anyone, as the evidence is allready in the game: one may consider lowsec is so much better than hisec in every aspect, but it does not make it a popular feature (more like a desert, which after YEARS they have buffed now lol, don't thing it will have a lot of effect anyway). May I repeat that CCP intends T3 to be a popular feature like T2 again? If they fail to make it popular then wormholes will fail and will be an other desert. Anyway my whole point is: stop prenerfing stuff ffs and buff T3 Highlighted your problem. Things don't need to be very popular to be good. Sometimes the most popular things are the worst (see hisec and boybands). Also Eve is not as popular as WoW . Originally by: Rells First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.12 15:54:00 - [9] Originally by: Uzume Ame Anyway let's wait and see, it's true what somepeople has said is to early to know, and is probably they will tune a lot of stuff before T3 goes in full production. Dammit, seems I won't get your stuff then Originally by: Rells First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.12 17:27:00 - [10] Originally by: rValdez5987 I have no problem with people who do things other then pvp to make isk, so long as the isk they make gets funneled back into pvp. I am already happy if the ISK they make is not used to finance whiney posts Originally by: Rells First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.

H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.13 10:52:00 - [11] Originally by: Shadowsword A Hulk isn't something you're supposed to lose Right, they have a strong tank, are very agile, heavily armed and almost invincible. Apart from that miners have excellent situational awareness and usually never get caught in losec/0.0. Oh, and I forgot to mention that there are no suicide ganks in hisec. Originally by: Rells First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.13 11:28:00 - [12] Originally by: Tzar'rim They're not combat ships and as such they will hide/dock when trouble jumps into local, which makes them different from 'normal' ships. If you can't make that distinction don't post in your witty/lookatme kind of way. Sorry Tzar - my experience with hulks is different. I find them sitting at belts, not aligned anywhere in systems without stations, waiting to be blown up or ransomed. Besides that C&P is full of hulk suicide gank stories and fitting recommendations. Of course there are more Ravens/Drakes being blown up but there is no ship that is supposed not to be lost in Eve. Originally by: Rells First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.

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